This hill has potential. I have skied there with really good snow, quiet western style snow, but on Ontario vertical. But other times, it has been plain old Ontario. The lifts do not run all day, but open and close in a staggered fashion. This does not make any sense as the best runs have the shortest day. The lifts are good for fixed chairs. The grooming leaves a lot to be desired, a lot of the runs are ungroomed and full of undergrowth that make navigating them a challenge when there is not a good snow year. With some work and a reliable customer base, this could be one of Ontario's best hills.